Any Readers With A Black Card?
I have received a lot of comments and emails from people who have read the blog saying they are Centurion members. Some people have confirmed (mostly), or denied (based on their geographic region, since the card/rewards do vary) details listed here about the elusive Black Card. Since there appears to be so many readers who claim to be Centurion cardholders, let’s see’em.
If any readers would care to send in pictures of themselves with their cards please email them to [info at blackcardsource dot com] with the subject line “AMEX Black Card Pictures”. At a minimum, please blur/white/black out the account number of the card before you send it to me (I don’t want to be in a position of having your card number). Covering anything else is at your discretion. Sending in some action shots or shots with big receipts would be welcome too. I will post the pictures I receive here on the site.
The first submission comes from Mr. Noland Nelson, a hedge fund manager from LA. He has been a cardholder since 2005, as seen on the card, and says he spends about $2M a year on the card.
Our second submission comes from another reader on the site, “NYBlackCard”. He doesn’t give many details other than his special message for the reader above who also sent in his black card. You can also see he is reading this site in the background.
Our third submission comes from a guy who owns a Forensic Accounting staffing firm. He sent in pictures of his black card and one of his Centurion bills. He says he is very pleased with the card, especially the travel benefits, usually spends 30-50K a month on the card, and even used it to buy the Bentley in the picture below.
The picture below comes from James, another one of the readers of the site. He says he has been a cardmember since 1986, a Centurion member for “a few years”, and charges about 30-40K a month to his personal card. He said awhile back, his card number was stolen in South America, and American Express sent a package to mail his old card back to him so they could melt it down (interesting, this is new to me). James also offered a piece of advice, if you pay your income taxes with your card, you can get points, transfer them to a frequent flyer account, and fly business class for free.
The latest submission comes from Chris who didn’t offer much information except the picture below, which shows off all of his AMEX Business cards. Seems Chris has quite a few of them, including the Gold, Platinum, and Centurion Business cards. I don’t see the new Plum Business card though, maybe you should get that one too. Also, Chris was sneaky and sent it to my personal email address that I didn’t post on the site, I’ll just assume he looked at the site’s whois record.
Update 1/16/08
Remy, who owns a Dental practice in South Florida, sent in some pictures of his black card and the Bentley he bought on the card. He says he also owns 2 Rolls Royces, 2 small planes, and a second Bentley. You know what I say to that? I say, step your game up. I have a G5 Jet. What now? Exactly.
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Comments
NYBlackCard,
You are missing the point. This site is just promoting the benefts of the card. If you think spending $2m a year on the card is an exaggeration I doubt you really have a card at all. I put everything on the card from my sons tuition at USC ($45000 per year) to client dinners, parties, travel, hotels, etc. Spending $150,000-$200,000 a month is really not that hard. Even my mortgage at Indymac bank in Pasadena has partnered with AMEX so you can pay your mortgage with The Card ($24,556). You won’t find me on Google because I only manage a hedge fund on the Euro Markets. Just because you can’t find me publicaly does not mean anything. I am just a small fish in the overall wealth of this industry.
Best of Luck…….
Noland
I completely agree… I run well over $200k on my card on an average month and you’re not going to find me on Google. In the world I run in, I’m a pretty small fish. Seven-figure incomes may seem unreal in your neighborhood but in mine they’re the norm.
Noland,
I have emailed a pic of my black card to the admin of this site to post as proof that, despite your doubts, I do have one.
[edited by Admin to prevent a "flame war" between members]
Best of luck…..
Carlson,
Glad to see fish of the same size can swim together. Thanks for backing me up. NYBlackcard…..glad to see you have a card (although you can buy them on ebay). Like I stated earlier, you don’t need to be on Google to have this card. No ill-will toward you at all my friend…..I just bite back when people question my honesty. I have nothing to hide. Like Carlson said, “seven figure incomes are the norm in our industry.” There are kids half my age that make 10 times the amount I make on Wall Street.
Take Care…….
Noland
I only spent about 20 to 35K per year on my platinum card. I’ve been doing this since 2000, mostly for business related items. I am a small business owner, that operates a auto towing business in the Baltimore-D.C. area. My wife also has a platinum card she use’s for another 10-15K per year. Imagine my astonishment when I recieved an e-mail from american express asking if I wanted to upgrade to Centurion. My wife is balking at me accepting the offer due to the high fee’s involved. I will probably stay with platinum, but I am never the less flattered!!! The moral of the story is you dont always have to spend a lot, but paying early on the charges does help. It also helps to have a savings account with Ameriprise, and a line of credit on the platinum card that also gets paid early. Happy Holidays to all! Wayne
The last submission is a fake. The gold color of the card metal and the graphic of the centurion is flat not etched like in the other card shots.
Fake if I ever saw one.
Here is the auction for the fake Gold meta colored “Titanium” black card. As you can see the font and etched metal is different from the real cards.
After reading the first response…it reminds me how the world is directed into thinking that the only people with money are searchable on google, or a celebrity; it just proves the ignorance of many. Yes there are celebrities and other searchable on google, but most of corporate America isn’t.
My father got the black card back when you needed an invitation, and he isn’t findable either anywhere on the internet. Maybe his company but not him individually. I’ve been working with him for ten years now and just received my first black card. I’m only 24, i share an account with my father…together we spend on the card, maybe 800000 to 1.5m a year, but we also don’t put all of our charges on the card.
We also don’t flaunt our sh*t, nor use the benefits offered by the card…like most people with money, we are normal people who made it from the bottom. NYBACKCARD whoever u are, u are a f**king idiot-dont ever post on the internet again…i swear whoever reads your posts……their IQ’s will be lowered after reading what your retarded mind came up with!
Hi all, Go back and look at the Centurion card photo “Wayne” submitted; currently it’s the most recent one. **Before I go on let me say for the record that I am not doubting or disbelieveing what Wayne says**, but the card in this photo looks EXATLY like the promo/fake centurion cards. Notice how the lettering and border are gold in color, not the current silver like in the other photos. And look at the lack of detail on the centurion head (in the middle of the card) compared to the other amex card photos. Besides, I know exactly what a real centurion card looks like and what the promo/fakes do… trust me, I’ve seen both in person. Now, Wayne might’ve received this card in the mail as a promo, which would make perfect sense and go with what he’s saying.
Wayne, just to clarify, can you send a new pic of the real card since you now upgraded to Centurion? (Just put your thumb over your last name and blur out the account numbers if you’re concerned with privacy.) Take care all.
Yep Jason, I just read your posts, exactly what I was saying too. Hopefully Wayne can submit a new photo of his real card with his name on it and with this website in the background for verification. Otherwise he is a fake. Period. We’ll see what happens…
how Facinating.
i work in high end retail, and googled amex centurion card after seeing about three today… i really had no idea that they were so rare.
that last one, though, doesn’t look anything like the ones i see. and damn, i see a lot of them.
As an FYI to readers, Wayne, the one with the supposed “fake” AMEX has asked for his card to be taken down.
It’s not “supposedly fake” compare it with all over black cards on the internet, compare to the few that are on ebay, you’ll quickly realize that his supposedly “fake” black card is indeed a fake black card. We’re not making this up here, there is proof.
My comment was not to say I thought it wasn’t fake, but to point out that once people said it was a fake, he emailed me and asked me to take it down. I am not saying it wasn’t fake.
Noland, you are egotistical, self centered moron. I have a Centurion Card and I don’t need to come on here to flaunt it to some blogger. Seriously you need to get a life. No really.
Ken,
Egotistical…yes, self centered moron…perhaps. Rich…absolutley. I Buy and Sell people like you…all day long. By the way….who’s the moron….you had to google this blog and read all the submissions to find me…Now go make me a sandwich you pee-on!
Jokes on Noland Nelson actually, I noticed on his picture he only blacked out the first set of numbers, then blurred out (but you can still read) the second set of numbers, and then covered the last 4 set of numbers.
Noland,
The first set of numbers are the same on ALL centurion cards, look at the other pictures, the first set is the vendor id number, so American Express Plat cards all have the same first set of numbers, and the centurion number is 3717, always, on all centurion cards, so blocking that out is useless as it is not the unique identification number for your card.
The middle numbers are the beginning of your account number, your number, even though you blurred it out, is still legible and is:
xxxxxx or xxxxxx, anyways now I have most of your card number
3717 xxxxxx
Exp 07/xx
The last set of numbers is only 5 digits, and can easily be figured out through brute force techniques. Instead of having to brute force all 11 digits of your account number on your card, you’ve published publicly on a blog the first 6 numbers of that account number. You’ve more than halved the time it would take for someone to figure out the last part of your card number.
If I were you Noland, I would actually request American Express to void that number and get a new card. I’m honestly saying this because you don’t know who has read this blog and a lot of ID thieves out there just looking for opportunities like this.
I doubt you’ve seen any charges yet, but better to be safe than sorry now that the information and picture is forever in google cache/archive.org and on the internet in general.
Just my 2cents.
- Jason
To protect Noland I have upload a new image that covers the #’s based on the above commenter’s information and I have edited the above comment to protect mentions of Noland’s number. However, Jason provides a good warning to people. Thanks.
Jason,
Thanks so much for the information regarding my Centurion Card. I guess I just assumed I was protected. We need more bloggers like you. Thanks again……Noland
Noland,
while this may be off topic, how exactly did you get your start on wall street? Just look at this as….a question from a young man who aspires one day to be in your shoes, or atleast…shoes that are filled with the same amount of money.
Dave,
Got my start in ‘92 at Goldman Sachs right out of college. Great training program. Worked in the Chicago area. I was in debt $80,000 (USC) from college loans and had a baby on the way with my new wife……basically flat broke. I made a ‘killing’ by finding the most successful banker at my firm….introducing myself and doing everything he did. Associate yourself with smart people and follow their lead. Today I run a hedge fund on the Euro Markets out of Los Angeles with a mid size firm. Best of Luck!
Noland
Thanks for the advice, I aspire to be where you are but I see you worked very hard to get there. Hopefully I do one day.
-Dave
Oh, another question…what type of degree did you graduate with? I have no one in my family or that I know that I can ask these questions and I have no clue what to major in.
This has gotten absurd. I found out Noland is not what he says he is. I sent information to the admin on this that shows he is an employee at a mortgage company. I emailed Noland at his job and at his home address calling him out on his BS. I also found out his mortgage info was all a lie as I saw his closing costs on his house which is modest to say the least.
Admin, at least let your community see that Noland is a fraud. I gave you all the info and proof that almost everything he has said is a lie.
NBC
I don’t remember receiving anything in email from you in regards to this. I do remember a comment posted a while back, but I had to edit it due to some of the language I believe.
If Noland is not who he says he is, then he isn’t who he says he is. The internet is serious business, for real son.
Admin: lolz for serious business comment.
Noland: your black card is *real* so.. hey you spent 250k a year at some point, good for you
NYBlackCard: you have one too.. there is plenty of room for you two relatively and apparently wealthy people in this world. Calm down.
I’m still staring at my black card invite stuff…
NYBlackcard,
You truly have no life. As the Admin said….he never received anything from you. Are you kidding me? The information you said you had is impossible to get. You don’t have my address because I never would post something like that. You never emailed me because you don’t have my email info at home or work. My mortgage info is a lie? $24,556 a month is what I pay to Indymac….I’ll post a coupon on this site as well to shut you up. How do you live with yourself…..I have never met more of a hater than you. Don’t be jealous NYC…..would you like me to post my W2? Good idea….I just sent a copy of my W2 to the Admin to post to show my salary well into the seven figures. Now don’t be sad when your blackballed from this blog….grow up!
Noland
Noland why would you send any info like that to prove anything? Honestly your both crazy (Noland you not as much).
Also I always did wonder.. and I’m serious.. why do people with clearly millions of dollars get mortgages? Would it not make total sense to buy a property in cash?
[...] of their black cards for proof of membership and one fellow who volunteered is LA hedge funder Noland Nelson, who reportedly spends $2MM annually on the [...]
Well if you really want a black card just photo shop the image and send it in to Capitol One where they will upoad any image on your credit card for free. Bang you got your self a black card, half the people in Hollywood can’t tell the difference if the little capitol one and Mastercard symbol are chillen on the side of the card. As long as its black, got the Centurion logo and says American Express your good to go!
Real or fake, i think anyone here who feels hate toward Noland is upset that he has something you don’t, aka jealous. Whether its a cover faking you out or the real to be your pissed meter is peddeged. On another note who gives a shh it. But if you ask what I think, It’s a gold with a cover… and regardless if your already rich, why wouldnt you want to get/look richer. Either way you term it as; “If you got it flaunt it” / “Fake it til you make it!!!’
Lukster
My 18 year old son is a Centurion black card member. I cannot/will not post a photo but will say I get a kick out of shopping with him. As soon as it is handed to a sales associate, waitress etc. it prompts a reaction due to the weight of the card. Often they will take quite some time to return with it. Sometimes showing it around to other employees or trying to determine whether it is a legit card. He almost always get “Is this daddys card?” He responds with a simply “yep” as anything else opens a big door to “what do you do for a living, are you a millionaire, how can I get one” and he being a private person would rather not oblige.
Interesting website. Not sure yet if it’s about promoting benefits of AMEX cards or bragging about Centurion card. I’ll browse some more here to determine that. Anyhow, I have a small business ($13M/year in revenue), AMEX member from 2004. I’ve had basically all possible AMEX cards issued since 2004 (clear, business green, platinum, etc.) I currently have 7 active cards. I’m paying everything within a month (monthly charges $200-400K, depending on the business - I pay my vendors with AMEX.) I was offered Centurion card a year ago, but I didn’t sign up. I couldn’t justify paying $2,500 a year for the benefits they are offering. I didn’t tell my wife about it until later though, I must admit. Otherwise she would make me sign up for it - she likes this kind of stuff. 
The best card I’ve ever had is the Plum Card. I pay everything within 10 days and earn an extra $4-8K a month for doing that. Doesn’t sound like a lot, but it adds up ($48-96K a year.) I don’t know, maybe I’m an old-fashioned and just don’t like showing off with the titanium-made card, or simply don’t care about the status. Probably second. Most of my friends don’t even know how much I make - I like it. This way we are all on the same level.
you guys should pay for my education. its 9k a year. or at least give an art grant so i can make films. ha
you know how visa cards there are different first 4 digits to every bank, it is similar to american express or is it random
3732 - Gold business
3727 - Jet Blue
3717 - Black
Anyone have any other ones?
Hey you guys need to help me out. im struggling to pay my tuition for my med school. Im not a business guy, I believe in education thats why im pushing it to the edge. Instead of bragging about black card, think about the students that have a bachelor degree but working at a calling center and still have to repay the private student loans with an average of 6-10% interest. email me doctorjay10@yahoo.com. Im an aspire anesthesiologist if you help this generation out, we will also invest in the future generation.
Oh my god, jonathan-give us all a break. You are no better than the begger standing on the corner. Accept the negitive dollars while you are in school because you know damn well the big dollars are coming. Shame on you.
I just have to point something out to you guys -
I just logged on to this site to have a look at what the card actually looks like - my boss has one but I’ve only ever seen him whack it out quickly to pay for things and have never had a good look at it.
Do you know how stupid some of you sound here? It’s great if you have the card - some of us can only wish for it. But, even if you don’t and your telling everyone you do - guys, let him have his dream. Don’t chastise him, it’s not worth it - if you have it, you know it, and that should be enough.
I totally agree with A J. Some of u really need to get a life. You have the card then good for you, you don’t have it no big deal.
im 18 years old and was just recently aprroved for the Platnium, its a sweet feeling knowing that paying your BMW bills, your cell phone bills, and traveling fee’s early really pay off,, just hope that i dont go ape and go over board like my brother who is 45000 in debt like a retard. but oh well
i dont get why it is such a big deal to have a blcack card. i mean it is just a card. anyone who brags about having one is an idiot.
Haha, all that money spent and not a penny on the less fortunate. I drive a Toyota Corolla GT (the old one from the 80’s) and the difference between that and a Bentley could feed a third world nation. No one needs a Bentley, nevertheless two. Sometimes people have more money than brains.
Its his money to spend on anything he damn well pleases. I say good for him———A Bentley minus A Toyota Corolla GT does not equal food for a third world country. Some people have no brains and no money.
Hi There,
I am a American Express cards collector from the Netherlands, I am still looking for nice cards to make my collection bigger. I am looking for the plastic business blackcard and the business titaniumcard. Or if you find some old cards somewhere in a draw just tell me and i am willing to buy them for a good price.
my emailaddress is msimoskie@hotmail.com
Thanks,
Michel Simoskie
all you guys think you have money i could buy and sell you all people talking about spending 2 mil a year on the black amex my spending habits consist of 1.5 mil a month and thats for low..there aint nothing i aint got and thers nothin i cant buy to tell you the truth i wish i was broke
Looking for a black card. Anyone have a canceled card I could have just for fun? Or a AMEX Centurion promo card? Please e-mail me. Jamcain32@aol.com
DOSE ANYONE HAVE A AMEX Centurion promo card
I WILL BUY IT OFF YOU.
PLEASE, I COLECT ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF!!
THANKS
PS: ADD MY MYSPACE
Just happened on this site. I do not have an AmEx card, but a very close friend has had a black Centurion card since 1998. The unsolicited card package was delivered to his office by courier while I was visiting. He had no idea what it was or why it was delivered to him. He is not a big spender and seldom used his personal gold AmEx card. Since 1998, he has used the Centurion card solely for the purchase of air fare, usually economy, sometimes business, never first. He claims that he has never had an AmEx monthly statement that exceeded $5000 and his statements usually average $1500-2000 per month. He has since obtained an associate Centurion card for his eldest son - for vanity purposes only. Why was he selected to receive the Centurion card? From what we have been able to determine, it was solely because he shares the rather unique family name of one of the wealthiest men in the Middle East - a distant cousin whom he has not met.
Can I just say that this is the STUPIDEST sight EVERRRRRRR. Oh my goodness. Who even cares if you have a black, gold, silver, green, purple, orange, yellow card. I mean REALLY???? I am a graduate student with an MTVU card and freak out when my bill nears $500 for the month. So seriously, seriously? I just can’t comprehend how stupid this is. You guys should worry more about things that mean something–war, racism, education, our plummitting economy (eh, low-blow, I know), and not about stupid frivolties–Bentleys, $800 gazillion jets, etc.!!!!!!
I am a card member however I am not a Black Card holder yet.
Does anyone have an American Express Centurion promo card or a canceled card that I could have or purchase. I am looking for two to use in the third installment of the One Crazy Night movies. The first two are currently available on Amazon. Unfortunately these movies are not Hollywood big budget films, they are more like early John Waters movies. If they were big budget I am sure finding props like this probably wouldn’t be this challenging. Any assistance you may be able to offer is greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
London Hilton
This intrigues me. I would be happy to post an anonymous picture here for you guys, not that I have to prove I have one since I have heretofore never boasted about having, I only just lurked. But the idea to boast in a way that can be found in a google search, to have to include your name on your card for everyone to see, AND to tell them how much you put on the card in a year (which is clearly an exaggeration given no information being able to found on this guy online), amazes me. I guess you don’t get the card to be discreet, but it is enough for me to have the little attention I get when I pay for things, which is not much attention these days. But to go out of my way to post MY card with my name on it to the world…..fascinating